tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981780833943704182.post5920250057295738707..comments2023-08-26T09:02:18.026-04:00Comments on Meanwhile.......Back at the Ranch: They're Just Learning What We Already KnowRanch Managerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15230951347227450112noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981780833943704182.post-68037257253674649692009-08-07T16:41:41.909-04:002009-08-07T16:41:41.909-04:00No, we pro-horse females don't have to offer ...No, we pro-horse females don't have to offer body parts to trade horses with the boys. We do the work and are treated like equals. <br /><br />When you don't have the skills I guess you have to use what your mamma gave you. <br /><br />We do these really wierd things called riding horses. Giving them a marketable skill. And buying the horses in the ring with our own money just like the boys do.<br /><br />But if you like your opinion better feel free to embrace what you are comfortable with.<br /><br />Another website I frequent is heartlessbitches.comr.h.1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981780833943704182.post-39499383165926765842009-08-07T08:31:14.577-04:002009-08-07T08:31:14.577-04:00This comment was posted in the general comments wh...This comment was posted in the general comments which I will be removing so am placing comments where they "belong" before I do so >><br />"You have no idea how much those women at Sugarcreek are like the proslaughter folks.One even offered Baker her left boob if he needed it. You cant get any more friendly then that can you? "<br />Unknown 7/30 11:31pmRanch Managerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15230951347227450112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981780833943704182.post-7980974140813839522009-08-02T17:50:41.290-04:002009-08-02T17:50:41.290-04:00G810girl- lol on the spell check! See this is why ...G810girl- lol on the spell check! See this is why I like to have some sort of name on a post because I, or someone else, may want to address a commentor directly. If I say "dear anonymous" it just doesn't work since there may be several of them! lol. But I did leave the option to post comments as Anon. because I know some folks either don't have an account or they are just more comfortable....<br /> carry on all :)Ranch Managerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15230951347227450112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981780833943704182.post-70163642124405347522009-08-02T12:17:29.564-04:002009-08-02T12:17:29.564-04:00I think some people feel a little better if they c...I think some people feel a little better if they can say what they want without anyone knowing who they are, or where they are from. Anonymous posters can say all sorts of nasty things without being held responsible for it. I will say that for now, they're getting some discussions going, and I'm all for that. Considering some of what they've said, I'm not surprised they've chosen to remain anonymous! sorry about the delete...i forgot to spell check!g810girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04194355116585333357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981780833943704182.post-44499781162329133242009-08-02T12:15:45.275-04:002009-08-02T12:15:45.275-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.g810girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04194355116585333357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981780833943704182.post-3924895767189792862009-08-02T09:32:36.299-04:002009-08-02T09:32:36.299-04:00I wish you all would stop posting under anonymous....I wish you all would stop posting under anonymous. Yes I left the option there but really you should have enough beliefs in your own convictions to at least us your ID. No one is asking for your real life full name, but "anonymous" is getting a little annoying. It isn't hard to get a google account and ID, try it.Ranch Managerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15230951347227450112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981780833943704182.post-41836146082318564822009-07-31T10:30:45.704-04:002009-07-31T10:30:45.704-04:00Nothing has ever been hidden in the slaughter, auc...Nothing has ever been hidden in the slaughter, auction, feedlot, loose horse trade. There is not and never has been a "black market" trade. I don't know any loose buyers or feeders who won't tell you where the horses came from or where they are going. No one has ever hidden. Years ago I used to call Central Nebraska Pack to get a live weight price. Nothing was hidden. If you go to any sale, anything selling under scale price is going to have a short life. And not all horses sold loose go to feedlots or slaughter. <br /><br />Every drug given to any animal has a period of withdrawl. Whether people like to think about it or not cattle are wormed, given steriods, and a multitude of drugs. It's been sometime since I was involved in cattle feeding but I don't recall any drug (and many are interchangable between species) with a withdrawl period longer than 30 days. The horse industry is going to follow suit. Although it sounds noble to point out the "culprits" it's for food safety no more no less. Nothing new in animal agriculuture. This is another reason the feedlots exist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981780833943704182.post-8372045021256910612009-07-31T10:26:24.446-04:002009-07-31T10:26:24.446-04:00Because some of my horses do get sold at sale barn...Because some of my horses do get sold at sale barns I do not Worm but twice a year and horses that I know will not find homes at the sale are not wormed. Most horses here where I live are like this. Most people that have horses that are going to sale that are not rideable, old, bad legs, or what ever are not given all the med's that horses that are in trainning barns do. If my horses where tested they would come out good for slaughter.<br />and I all so am watching the ladys that go to sugarcreek and save out of the kill pen.. good for you.. work with someone and you get more then if you fight with someone. and picking your horses that you know you can home is better then just going after that one with the "sad eyes". I took a horse to the sale once that was a KILLER.. but she was a good looking horse and had a very kind eye... but if you would of saved her she would of killed someone... sooner then later. All you had to do is walk in her pen with a rode.. halter or otherwise... and she would of kicked you to death. I went into the ring with her and said... " this horse is to be sold for kill only or she will kill you". So remember this little thing as your thinking that we are all such bad people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981780833943704182.post-18311924332450982882009-07-31T09:01:29.735-04:002009-07-31T09:01:29.735-04:00I agree, not all do, and this blog is an example o...I agree, not all do, and this blog is an example of a group that chose not to, and got good results.<br />The Feed lot trade is something that has seemed to gain popularity, and let's be honest, is making some folks a bit of money along the way.<br />Bidding at the auctions has been going on for as long as auctions have existed, and in general, unless the Kill buyer is purchasing for a private client, they will drop out if a buyer in the stands is bidding once the bid hits a certain amount. There's no reason for them to bid up a horse that's going directly to slaughter.<br />If horsemeat from horses that have been wormed, have steroids, and other drugs injected into them is no longer available what do you think is going to happen if horsemeat is still in demand? This subject was addressed a few years ago, and it was suggested that the answer would be farms strictly dedicated to horses intended for slaughter purposes would take the place of the horses sent to slaughter now. Do you really feel that wouldn't happen? Supply and demand.<br />The Quarter Horse argument is an old one, and I'm glad you put in the qualifier LIKE them, because any stock type horse is considered a quarter horse in the slaughter statistics. And let's not forget that Thoroughbreds are right behind them, and we're still racing the legs off of them, and throwing them away, yet I still see groups like the FOB's who are linked to that breed and dedicated to the end of slaughter focusing their efforts on the Quarter Horse industry instead of cleaning up their own back yards first. In fact the NTRA to my knowledge still holds a neutral position on slaughter, unless they have recently changed. Where's the outrage on that?<br />Talk about overproduction, how about the Thoroughbred Industry and the quest to breed a winner. How many OTTB's are in need of rescue every day? And how many of them are broken down at a very young age because they haven't made the money any are then cast off?<br />The Quarter Horse Industry isn't perfect, but before stones are cast in their direction, perhaps the we should demand that ALL industries be held to the same standards.<br />Now, back on track......This is really good information, and I'm glad to see someone doing something positive with the Sale Barns. I hope they can get something set up to save horses each week. These women sound like people I'd like to meet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981780833943704182.post-10193814320052531652009-07-31T00:25:12.567-04:002009-07-31T00:25:12.567-04:00This has been going on for a long time.Thousands o...This has been going on for a long time.Thousands of horses have been bought directly from feed lots, or many times by out-bidding the meatmen at auctions. Not everyone toots their horn or burns bridges. Also there are thousands of people who work directly with the Gov. to get loop-holes and laws changed. For example, horse-meat from horses that have been wormed, have steriods and other drugs injected in them have been for many years fed to people in other countries. This is going to stop soon. <br /><br />The over production of some breeds like quarter horses are a large percent of the thousands of horses sent to slaughter each year. The industry will have to give names of ranches who produce these thousands of horses for meat. And ID each horse. If people want to send horses to slaughter they will have to come out of hiding and stand up in public and let their peers know who they are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com